Mike Rogers actually said...

I completely agree with her on that not just because it gets bad apples out of the system who need to find something else to do, but it send...

I think the thing that aggravates the public about that is, if we are truly moving to a threat- or risk-based perspective of how we do this ...

The fact is a breach is a breach.

Well, how did you come up with the number of 58 percent that were reported if you didn't have a definition?