Julian Bond: “We are not saying, Mr. President, exactly what the outlines of this welfare reform proposal will be. The Finance…”

Just as we did not allow segregation to be decided state by state.

I don't think so. I think this -- and African-American communities like every other community in the country, the tide is shifting.

I know the tide is changing. I can see from poll results where the support for same-sex marriage used to be minimal. It grew. It grew and grew.

Of course, it is exactly the same. It's a right that all Americans have and no reason why gay and lesbian people ought not to have these rights too. These are universal rights.