Julian Bond: “John Lewis has said it better than anyone could have said it.”

I know the tide is changing. I can see from poll results where the support for same-sex marriage used to be minimal. It grew. It grew and grew.

Any time a group of people are denied rights and struggle for their rights, that's a civil rights movement.

I don't think so. I think this -- in African-American communities, like every other community in the country, the tide is shifting, people are thinking differently.

Well, I think it is. I mean any time a group of people are denied rights and struggle for their rights, that's a civil rights movement.