09/15/2009
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"I think that is true."
"So the Federal system should be done right, but so if you take money--the problem with States is--one of the problems is that the probation officers in Alabama are paid by the State of Alabama."
"I would say to you that Norm Carlson--some of you might remember him, former prison commissioner, and he said there is no area that he knew of in which more people thought they had the one answer to f..."
"Well, one of the things that happens in the program that I--a couple things happen with grants."