Gary Palmer actually said...

I was mayor of Phoenix, Arizona. So we had to run Phoenix Sky Harbor Airport, one of the largest airports in America.

I think that should be one of your main points in arguing for an increase in the passenger facility charge.

I think they need to be outside the building, as well as inside the building. Because just having them outside the building is a visible det...

What they have done is they have created regulations, and they say that it is black box technology.