11/28/2017
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"It is disconcerting to me, Mr. Chairman, that we have had hearings with other agencies and it just seems that this goes on and on and on and no real punitive action is taken."
"Has anyone been fired? Has that question been asked, Mr. Chairman?"
"That seems to be a pattern ----"
"Well, given that they've called votes, let me ask that question to Health and Human Services on the TANF benefits."