Gary Palmer actually said...

My guess is, Mr. Lazzeri, that most of you never--not only never owned a business, you probably haven't worked for a business, which I think...

Well, following on Mr. Meadows' questions and how you have gone from giving permits to companies like Mr. Cottingham's organization to opera...

That's part of what I would consider commonsense policy.

I find it interesting, Mr. Kerr, that the EPA seems to think that there's not going to be an impact.