Ivan McKee: “The Scottish Government has got a view on that. And that is that people should be spending a percentage of the time in…”

The public should expect better

If you look across the wider public sector, there are public bodies that have driven headcount reductions and have worked through the no compulsory redundancy policy to its conclusion.

To be honest with you, the realpolitik of this is that people will exploit it, misrepresent it, frankly, tell lies about it.

Cuts is about doing less with less; efficiency is about doing the same or doing more with less because you're doing it more efficiently.