I mean, if we put forth that any saving from fraud actually went to increase the benefits for some of the others that are receiving it, we would find some real uniform bipartisan support for that.

Can you in the next 120 days get me an updated report on the trafficking?

Mr. Speaker, I thank the gentleman from Kentucky (Mr. Yarmuth) for yielding this evening. I am absolutely embarrassed to come after my friend, Congressman Greg Meeks. Why in the world would the gentleman put me on the schedule to come to…

But the bad actors, I want to make sure they go home and they go home for good.

And that is precisely why we are having this hearing because it shouldn't be a stigma that everybody is cheating the system.

This will not be the last hearing then, and we will have you back.

How about you at USDA, Mr. Concannon? Can you get us that?

I think that would help, you know, especially as we are reviewing on our side, we know how the money is being spent and why.

I want your first priority to be fraud.

let me tell you, it is harder to go after the recipient and it is very easy for you to make statements about recipients

I do think it would be a deterrent to folks who don't want it traded because their picture is on it.

But going after fraud is legal.

You have 30 days to address that issue and make a compelling case on why you're not paying it to them to this committee.

So as we look at that, Ms. Brown, from a GAO perspective, that type of tool that allows us to track those benefits and where they are being used and perhaps allow for better fraud prevention, is that a tool that you have or is that a tool…

Could we get a report like this for every single State where we see the benefits that are being used in other States?

I want to make sure that we are clear that I want you to focus and have your priority on fraud versus on what goes on a shelf.

I want to give them the tools coming out of Oversight and from GAO and the others to say here is how we define the argument.

If we gave you that, you believe that we would be able to not only make a more focused approach on those that are fraudulently trying to game the system.