the gentleman from Michigan and my colleagues, I honestly believe we can do tax cuts this year if we just get our nerve back to control wasteful government spending.

I think some of our other colleagues are saying if we are going to spend this 18 billion this year we ought to find offsets, but the worst case scenario would be that in the next 3 or 4 weeks we do an 80 billion to 90 billion spending…

Reclaiming my time just for a minute, I am sure after the impassioned speeches we heard this evening basically condemning Republicans for even proposing a tax cut idea because it uses Social Security money, I am sure everyone listening and…

I ask how many people own a stock or a bond, almost every hand in the room goes up.

the gentleman from Wisconsin I appreciate him yielding.

the gentleman from Michigan another question that I think kind of puts this all into perspective.

I asked the gentleman the specific question about the anglers in Ireland only because I chair an oversight subcommittee on the Committee on Education and the Workforce, and we asked a very simple question of the Executive Branch about a…

I think that the gentleman and I agree that as we end up 1998 and as we prepare for 1999, the last thing this Congress ought to be doing is a 90 billion spending plan.

the gentleman from Michigan ever been in one of his town hall meetings and asked the question: How many people think government spending should go up faster than the rate of inflation?

I think it is important we put this in perspective for any of them pointing fingers over here at that Republicans that Republicans want to use Social Security money for tax cuts.

I think what is real important here is to understand that, if we had not done the tax cuts, that we were actually getting this money back to the people, and we could not frame it in this framework of, well, listen, we are going to do one…

I ask them all a question out there in Wisconsin, and the question goes like this: Which one of these 2 things do you think is more likely to happen?