The idea of somehow being able to control encryption is just not realistic.

Because you can't hack a sextant.

There are places our power doesn't reach. We can't regulate something that's over in Berlin or Swaziland.

I just think it is important. That shows the complexity of this issue. You have to really do it in a granular way.

I would appreciate, to the extent you guys can give us suggested language or proposals or outlines of legislation, that is what we are looking for.

I think innovation is going to be an absolute key to this.

I agree with that. This is a very difficult issue to grapple with, because basically we are balancing two provisions of the Constitution, provide for the common defense and ensure domestic tranquility, and the First, Fourth, and Fifth…

I think that is a very important point, because a lot of the publicity and discussion and testimony at the time of the original San Bernardino case was we only want this for one phone. We are not talking about one phone. We are talking…

I think one of the problems we have to think anew here is, is that this is an international phenomenon.

I do not like commissions, but I signed on to Senator Warner's bill to set up a commission to really look in depth at this issue involving the technology community, the law enforcement community, and the intelligence community.

Encryption, the encryption horse is way out of the barn. We are not talking about encryption.

I thank my friend for yielding the time. I really want to support this important amendment offered by the gentleman from Arizona. It is important because it will strike a section of this bill that will hurt a small group of States…

I continue to urge my colleagues to reject this amendment. I yield back the balance of my time. The Acting CHAIR. The question is on the amendment offered by the gentleman from Missouri (Mr. Smith). The question was taken; and the Acting…

We certainly support healthy forests. I represent the State of Maine, where we have a tremendous amount of forests and many people who work in the forest products industry, so we respect the value of this research. But it was fully funded…

Again, I must oppose this amendment because it continues to take more money from the already-starved EPA. The EPA's main operating account was cut by $92 million in the bill. With the last amendment that just passed, we have cut another…

I have to strongly oppose this amendment that would take even more money from the already starved EPA. The bill has already severely cut the Environmental Protection Agency's main operating account by $92 million. This would cut it by…

I claim the time in opposition to the amendment. The Acting CHAIR. The gentlewoman from Maine is recognized for 5 minutes.

I just want to make a few points about this amendment. As my colleague has said, this would reduce the funds from EPA operations by $14 million and increase the Inspector General by $10 million. I think we would certainly agree that it…