But the forefathers of the Argives and Thebans, they either joined the barbarian's army, or did not oppose it; and therefore he knows that both will selfishly embrace their advantage, without considering the common interest of the Greeks.
Demosthenes: “But the forefathers of the Argives and Thebans, they either joined the barbarian's army, or did not oppose it; and…”
Editor's note · Context
Demosthenes argues that Philip's alliances are based on his understanding of the historical self-interest of the Argives and Thebans, contrasting them with Athens.
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