Yet these attacks on our critical infrastructure certainly, I think, could be mitigated with updated reforms to our international treaty, including some stiff, enforceable penalties.

I am a little frustrated that you all have put together a lot of efforts to try to help out and guide us, but even Johnny Wooden used to say there is some confusion over efforts versus accomplishments.

I don't know how in the world we are going to get to that.

When President Trump developed a vaccine or called for a development of vaccine, it happened within 10 months.

I think there is an alternative that we don't have to face all the problems because they are telling me we may have hundreds of thousands of miles of transmission lines we have to put in as we make this transition.

Mr. Chairman, that is West by God Virginia. Let me just continue on with this.

I am just curious about, as we pivot away from fossil fuels under this scenario, we have already had people testify for the American Action Forum and the IER, the Institute for Energy Research.

We did this back in the '60s when President Kennedy said he wanted to put a man on the moon, and within 10 years, we did it.

I am going to have to have 850 square miles of land committed to putting windmills on.

Mr. McKinley. I am just running short of time, obviously. I just want--it is a reality check to realize what we are about to do here in pursuing, because if we can keep our coal-fired, fossil-fuel-fired power plants, we are not going to need this transmission problem, as it goes--it at least is mitigated.

I don't understand why we are exploring--advocating through the administration, advocating the abandonment of fossil fuels...