I think comprehensive reform which includes some changes in the verification process is going to be necessary.

I articulated principles for immigration reform that I believe can pass through Congress with bipartisan support.

We can only prevent illegal immigrants from working in the United States if we create a tough, fair, and effective employment verification system that holds employers accountable for knowingly hiring illegal workers.

Yes, we can do this.

Thank you, Mr. Aytes.

Obviously the devil is in the details in getting them all done, but I agree with your comments...

The American people will not accept any legalization of those currently in the United States illegally unless and until they're convinced that the government is very seriously committed to preventing future waves of illegal immigration.

Employers right now, there's a perception that E-Verify does not work.

Well, I want to thank you, Luis Gutierrez. You are an inspiration in terms of all you have done, and your passion, but also your intelligence and your practicality, realizing how we can get this done.

We do not intend that to happen.

And on that optimistic note, we will thank our witnesses and call the hearing to a close.