This is not the place and that is not why we are here.

I did not do this with the other witness because the other witness only had a few things.

I am not here to determine whether Mr. Truax did or did not commit a crime.

I think it is a dangerous precedent for this committee to start determining what parts that they like about witnesses' testimony.

I don't see how they shed an ounce of light onto this or relate to his testimony on the relevant matter.

My fear is that if this goes into the hearing record as written, the next thing that will happen is we will see this at a sentencing hearing.

Did you steal that money too?

Honestly, it sounds like old-fashioned bid-rigging and kick-back scheme, if you want the truth.

I would hope that we would be able to address that issue.

What I have read is just pretty much plain, old-fashioned, straight-up crime that could happen and does happen anywhere.

I respect the fact that HUD should have more of a--I have no problem with that concept.