Yes, absolutely. I do believe, Anderson, that when Tony Snow says, from the White House podium, that the administration has believed in four- -- six- power talks in North Korea for a long time, that's absolutely right.

But this one has run smack into reality, and the reality has been much tougher than he thought.

You don't hear much about that anymore either.

You also don't hear any more talk about an American empire, do you?

That's the ultimate insult among conservatives.

But there's no question that there has been a tone -- a real change in tone from the earlier days. Gone is the talk of axis of evil. Gone is the talk that we can't wait; we have to act.

I think it presents bigger burdens for some of the would-be democratic president candidates for '08, Mark Warner or Tom Vilsack.

The president obviously does not want to rush into any military action against North Korea or Iran. He's got his hands full in Iraq.

I do think that the conservatives are using this in a way to whip up their base and they are gaining the upper hand politically in this fight.

I think it's gotten a little over heated, hasn't it?

I just think this cut-and-run argument, they do not want that label on their party.