You are right, Congressman, but if you have a big fight over the debt ceiling, that is going to push up interest rates and cause exactly the effect you are worried about.

No, sir, not over the long term, Congressman.

We must and we will secure the future of this essential program for the millions of Americans who count on benefits. As we look at options to keep that promise, we must balance the needs of those with disabilities with the needs of workers…

We need the talents, the dedication, and the creativity of people with disabilities in the workforce, but equally important is we need policies and programs and investments that support this paradigm shift from a medical model to one that…

It is neat to see people who are in that situation accomplishing something with their lives. It really is.

the fifth hearing in the series entitled 'Securing the Future of the Disability Insurance (DI) Program.'

I urge you maybe to initiate a process of long-lasting fundamental reforms to American disability policies and programs.

We have got to fix it. That is just one more program we have to fix in this government.

I think you are all committed, as I am, to securing the future of our disability program.

And get after those crooks, Mr. O'Carroll.

Thank you. I want to thank you all for being here, and I appreciate your presence.