I mean, are you guys accounting for the fact that they may turn around and 2 hours later come back over again?

Well, let me just say that we have so many Border Patrol Agents and Air Interdiction Agents across the Southern Border that are working right now in order to, you know, keep our country and our community safe.

The nirvana for us is that the interceptions are happening at the border, at the line of scrimmage...

Intercepting drug cartels on the south side of John Ladd's ranch in Arizona, for me, is far more effective...

I mean, the unmanned and the manned bring strengths and weaknesses, right, and they are best when they complement each other.

Is it a couple of miles, or is it a couple hundred miles?

So all State and local law enforcement apprehensions that are turned over to you are in the effectiveness rate?

I think, Ms. Gambler, in your testimony, you talked about one of the challenges--this is taxpayer money, right, going into these barriers.

I think we need to at least come to, like, an understanding and an agreement of what the formula should be.

But do you have any sense of what the real denominator is?

There is a reason that many Americans do not trust the Department when it comes to border security.