We are not going to solve the problem piecemeal, and therein is perhaps the first lesson for all of us in this room.

It became amnesty and was probably the most specific reason why the comprehensive immigration legislation went down.

We are going to have to solve it if we are to have the kind of success with the kind of bill that Senator Feinstein noted.

This is not the way it should be. We have farmers in bread lines.

Support for that appears to be eroding, at least with respect to organized labor, and yet it is a critical component to any successful bill.

I appreciate the witnesses who are here today to help us work through those challenges.

I think you are skipping one step. The names are reported to someone who determines whether or not they have any kind of information on them.

Well, if I could just interrupt, these are your words, not mine, the 'all crimes, all hazards' approach.

It has always been focused on how to protect our constituents and fellow citizens.

it seems to me that, just as a general proposition--let me get your reaction to it--that while guidelines are really important when you are investigating these kinds of activities, you also need to be very careful that you do not get into…

In retrospect, knowing what we know about 9/11, you know, a light bulb would go on in our mind.

One reason I mention this is that yesterday Senators Lieberman, McCain, and I held a hearing in Phoenix about the drug cartel activity coming through Mexico and spilling over into the United States.

But the example that the Subcommittee--in 2004 we had a Subcommittee hearing, and here is a quotation from the testimony: 'Three of the 19 hijackers on September 11th were stopped by State or local law enforcement officials in routine…

So there could be different standards, depending upon the nature of the investigation.

Well, with all due respect, a lot of police work is based on hunches and suspicions...

But if I can interrupt you, how do you--some three people rented an apartment that had only magazines in it.

The tribe, backed by the United States Government, has made claims now to those tributaries, and this settlement settles all of those claims, provides the White Mountain Apache Tribe with just under 100,000 acre feet of water.

Because of the goodwill of all the parties here, and to some extent the relative simplicity of the issues, this water settlement came together quite quickly and I think is in very good shape.

This White Mountain Apache Tribe settlement stands out because ordinarily Indian water rights settlements are very difficult, time consuming, hard to put together, costly and they just are difficult.

I need to clarify something--I will ask the chief this, as well--but I am a little bit dubious of the notion that all the violence is, as you said, almost exclusively bad guys on bad guys.

I appreciate that and would just note if we could get a response to that letter, I think it would be very helpful.

Be straightforward about what is occurring here and ask for help.

I think that the governor needs to get to the Navajo Nation.

The main point is to get folks up to Phoenix so then they can either go east, or west, or north.

Clearly the resource issue has to be taken back to Washington, DC.