I can assure you we are very interested in working with the Western Governors Association on common sense ESA reforms.

In my view, the ESA is broken, and since 1973, when you have just about 1 percent recovered, that, I do not think is a success.

I appreciate your time and participation today so that we all can get a better understanding of the Endangered Species Act and how we can improve this legislation.

Do you have the rules of engagement you need or do they need to be modified?

These regulatory actions are based on a dubious science and an accumulation of improper collusion with extremist environmental groups and their sue-and-settle tactics.

Thank you very much. I do think that we are going to be talking about the cumulative effect up here, even though the EPA may not see that as advisable.

How are we addressing the recruiting and sustainment of personnel to eliminate critical cyber expert shortages?

Are we incorporating cyber security into the development of all our new weapons systems during the acquisition process?

If it takes that long so successfully come up with 16 off the list of 1600, I think it is time for a change.

I believe the flexibility of the Endangered Species Act is there when you look for it and you work for it.

I think now it is time to do it.

The polls show, this Gallup poll, the most recent one, it used to be that climate change or global warming was always No. 1 or No. 2.

Recovery is a long-term endeavor.

So what you are saying is that in the event it is something that falls into this category that you are not going to have any kind of a punitive action against States who are unable to do something that falls into this category, is that…

Do you consider all cyber-attacks against the U.S. a national security threat?

I think a lot of times the best ideas come from the ground, come from the States.

I think that is a good thing to have in the record.

How does the U.S. deter cyber-attacks?