Thank you to my colleague, Ms. Matsui, for her fine work and cooperation in working with me on this important issue.

It is impossible to completely eradicate the threat of cyberattacks, but the American people deserve to know that their sensitive information is being safeguarded with the utmost security.

But it is so broad right now that people are left to wonder what it is; whereas, it is only within the agency's hands to determine to clarify.

Well, my biggest concern is, ma'am, that all we are trying to do is clarify something.

There is already uncertainty out there.

If there is already uncertainty in it and we are trying to improve the uncertainty, but yet, we are OK with the way that it is, we move nowhere; there is no change.

Well, effectively is OK, but improving is better. There is always room for improving.

So if I was you I would wake up every morning.

My legislation doesn't alter current statutory authority for the Commission to prohibit acts or practices that are likely to cause substantial injury.

Well, it would sure help the taxpayers knowing that $45 billion isn't going out the door when we can identify that it is 12.2 percent and yet we can't stop it.

This hearing validates those concerns with concrete examples of how the Corps and EPA are already implementing the expanded Federal control.

I want to thank Senator Sullivan for holding this very important hearing.

OK, now, that is interesting. You are saying they actually have a written communication to that effect?

Well, let me just, in my final few seconds here, remind this panel up here that they tried to do this through legislation 6 years ago.

I will do everything within my power to expose these abuses so my colleagues--including the seven Senators who wrote a letter to EPA instead of voting for S. 1140--are no longer fooled by EPA's assurances.

I have heard concerns that the Corps and EPA are continuing to expand Federal control over land and water without any change in the statute or regulations.

Well, you know, one of the things that they say, I am not sure how formal this is, but I have heard the Corps and the EPA claim jurisdiction if a farmer wants to change just from grazing to growing hay, or from rice farming or to walnuts…

He was really quite outspoken. He had contended for a long period of time that of all the problems that farmers and ranchers in the State of Oklahoma, and he contended outside also, was nothing that is really found in the agriculture bill…