Well, we don't know because the White House refuses to provide us with any information, even though they've been asked nicely. They were asked more forcefully with the resolution of inquiry in our committee. Chairman Waxman and Ranking…

Great point. And another point that is so often missed in this discussion, let's take the example of the National Football League. You've got the Arizona Cardinals; I've got the Dallas Cowboys. A player who is lucky enough to be traded…

Well, of course, the life insurance business, the premiums for life insurance plummeted with the introduction of the Internet with these companies that would advertise and then sell their policies on the Internet.

Yes. And the power of the Internet could apply to health insurance as well. But, as you know, there is some difficulty selling in the individual market across State lines, and therein is where the regulatory part of what we--the regulatory…

Not, not fixing in this bill, that that will continue to exist. There are sites you can go to. You can go to Google and type in ``health savings account'' and get a variety of plans that will come up. And I encourage people who are looking…

Well, they may not be constitutional at our level. And the other thing to remember about a mandate, for a mandate to work, you have to know that it's in existence, and you have to know what the penalty is, and the penalty has to be pretty…

The exact same bill. We learned that in December of 2005. The Deficit Reduction Act had one word different between the House and Senate bills, and the whole thing was held up.

Actually, that is a House bill that the Senate passed. So we would simply have to concur with the Senate amendment, and that would be the identical bill. But in this case the Slaughter rule would say we don't even have to bring that bill…

There is no question that they are. You are right, the American people can see through that. It's an elaborate charade. It will provide no protection.

But, and I am sure the gentleman feels the same way, I would not want to stand in front of the 2,000 people on a hot August morning in a town hall in Denton, Texas, and say, you know what, I never voted for that bill. I voted for the rule…

I would just go back, too, to that instance with the Deficit Reduction Act, where a small difference in the House- and Senate-passed bills led to a court challenge, and we came back in January. We left on December 21st or whatever day it…

So we have two problems. The Constitution says we have to vote on the bill. We say the mandates may be extraconstitutional in their scope. And then the whole question of equal protection under the law. We have a constitutional scholar with…

One interesting point. You have these groups that went down to the White House in May and June--and I'm not going to criticize them for going down and advocating on behalf of their industries, on behalf of their groups. But what is so…

And I can be as critical of the insurance companies as anyone else, but they take the path of least resistance. Their capital is not necessarily any more courageous than anyone else's. The easiest way to get to what they want is an…

Let me point out just one thing. We hear over and over again Republicans have no solutions for health care. HealthCaucus.org is a Web site that deals only with health care policy. On that Web site, Dr. Burgess's prescription for health…

Isn't this troubling? Eight out of ten Americans now believe Congress governs without the consent of the governed. The Democratic Congress and White House simply aren't listening. Americans oppose this $2 trillion takeover of health care…

Madam Speaker, we're having the vote of the century on the Senate health care bill, but there's a sneaky snake oil gimmick afoot to pass the bill without voting on it. First, we're passing bills without reading them, and now they want us…

Mr. Speaker, we are told that we must immediately pass this government takeover of health care or there will be health care panic in the streets. Now, we know the real reason this bill is being rushed to passage, even though no one has had…