I thank the gentleman for yielding. I am pleased to follow my friend, Congressman Manzullo, in speaking about the importance of making it in America. Making it in America is not just about manufacturing in America, it's about succeeding in…

Madam Chair, I rise in support of the Military Construction Appropriations Act of 2011. This measure provides $141.1 billion for military construction of all kinds from military family housing, to construction of operational facilities in…

None of these fake drivers licenses triggered the rejection of a passport, is that correct?

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So just so I understand before I get Mr. Kutz's response to this, if I might.

Thank you very much, Senator Kyl.

So it was the Social Security number that triggered the first two, and then there were facial differences I understand it on the next two that----

It's our fourth investigation. It is my second as Chairman and it is disappointing to see that there was the success in again compromising our system.

So I guess the other thing that has me a little bit concerned in your response is that you said that you detected the two, therefore you knew that GAO was after you, or at least was doing their investigation, and then you changed your…

I have confidence in the work that our people are doing but I think we need to have an honest assessment as to whether our passports are going to be safe or not.

Would you just make available to our Subcommittee the cost issues here?

Obviously if someone has used fraudulent documents to get an ID document, that's not going to show up if you have a valid drivers license that was obtained through fraudulent means.

If you make a copy, as you pointed out, make a copy of a fraudulent document, to be able to trace that later is going to be very difficult.

So how far away are we from having that equipment located at the service centers?

I understand that this is a process that we can do a lot better and we need to do a lot better.

But you did use that technology that was being used at other locations, you I guess switched them to where GAO was active.

the people of this Nation are entitled to get the services for the fees that they are paying.

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