Robert Casey actually said...

I don't think that we are really moving in the right direction by not having them at the table as part of the solution.

But you agree it is a problem?

I think part of what we are dealing with here is there has been a fundamental change in what is required at work.

The main point they make is 'I need this skill level' or 'Five of us business leaders need this skill level coming through the pipeline, and...