03/30/2009
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"When we're approaching this topic--and there's a heated debate here, there's no question about that."
"I think we've got to keep our eye on the two most important groups, at least in my judgment. No. 1 are taxpayers and No. 2 are students."
"I have a high degree of skepticism when a report like this gets attacked."
"So if there's no consequences, we're going to be back here a year from now with the same discussion."