Charles Rangel actually said...

We have to find what you have said, which is clear, that if you are going to close loopholes or bring equity to the system, somebody is goin...

So basically what you are saying is that, politically, we would not be closing the so-called loopholes in order to raise the type of revenue...

It's just that, you know, every time we talk about closing loopholes we get support from the Republicans until we try to do it.

Thank you, Mr. Chairman, for calling these hearings.