Richard Burr actually said...

But, I would say this to all three of you, just because things are in statute certain ways, if they don't work, for God's sake, tell us so t...

My answer would be, probably not. It would probably not be involved in research to the degree that they are.

the challenge is that the VA competes for these professionals in a marketplace where they are high in demand and short in supply.

Let me add to something that you said and that is that we might agree that it doesn't happen naturally within the VA and there is a progress...