David Gergen actually said...

"the Obama Administration is trying to use this crisis in the economy as a way to change the way we approach energy and the environment, to reform healthcare, to bring big changes in education."

"Not exactly, but I think it's realistic. The more people look at this plan, I think the more they understand it does a great deal -- and the president is to be congratulated for -- for as far as it go..."

"Well, that's exactly right. And I think, on this one, the administration faces a very painful dilemma."

"The government has got to grow. That's the only -- it's the only institution we have left to help put some -- put some steam back in this economy right now."