David Gergen actually said...

"I want to go back to this, what Chris has been saying because I think he's got it right. It's a question partly, as we discussed all along, about what the indictments are for. But it's very much a que..."

"We know he lied to various people along the way. If he lied to a variety of people around the White House, there's a decent chance he lied to the FBI."

"Well, Anderson, again, it goes to the nature of the charges. If the charge comes back against Manafort for his personal unrelated to the White House financial transactions in the past, that somehow, y..."

"Absolutely. Absolutely. I'm sure they did. You know, after all they had a lot of access to J. Edgar Hoover's files and they're all sorts of details there both, you know, governmental and salacious."