David Gergen actually said...

"Yes, but I -- I think that Peter Bergen is right. This is a new, different, and, I think, in many ways, more sophisticated policy."

"Absolutely. And I think we need to be careful about being too self-righteous in one sense. ... we expect -- we have certain expectations of that and we're not going to sit still for something which is..."

"Yes, but I think that Peter Bergen is right. This is a new, different, and I think in many ways more sophisticated policy."

"I think we do need to make it a condition of helping this government. I think there should be standards that we insist on, that, if we're going to help prop you up, we expect -- we have certain expect..."