David Gergen actually said...

"We do know that the Mueller investigation, you know, there was some speculation, and the Trump White House was trying to make us believe that there was nothing here."

"I think it very much depends upon what charges are brought."

"I want to go back to this, what Chris has been saying because I think he's got it right. It's a question partly, as we discussed all along, about what the indictments are for. But it's very much a que..."

"We know he lied to various people along the way. If he lied to a variety of people around the White House, there's a decent chance he lied to the FBI."