05/24/2009
https://transcripts.cnn.com...
"Water-boarding is flat-out torture. We just ought to accept that. And it's something the United States should not do."
"Water boarding is flat-out torture. We just ought to accept that as something that the United States should not do."
"And that's why people like John McCain, on the Republican side, were so opposed to this sort of thing."
"I think this is a time -- and we have seen this out of Nelson Mandela and out of Vaclav Havel in their own countries. There are times when you really need to move to healing and move on."