Ron Klain actually said...

"Donald Trump has proven that he cannot manage a pandemic, now he can't even manage the mail."

"People weren't going to believe that when they hear that from the scientists. The more the President muzzles the scientists, the more people feel that they aren't being told the truth..."

"The idea that his embarrassment is the reason that the nation doesn't hear as much, on a daily basis, from important scientists is stunning to me."

"It is stunning, Anderson. I think it also goes back to something Kaitlan mentioned a minute ago, which is that as the White House has departed farther and farther from science..."