Mike Pence actually said...

"Mike Pence has likely provided intricate, direct, first-person testimony about the substance of those conversations."

"So Mike Pence is a crucial witness here. As a prosecutor, you absolutely have to have his testimony, for better or for worse."

"We know that Mike Pence has talked publicly about standing up to Donald Trump about not doing his bidding on January 6th."

"I do think it's more likely that this issue is resolved at the state level, but I don't agree with the former president who says this is a state's only issue."