Well, my figures show about $15 billion less, so I think agriculture has got a good story to tell there.

Well, it looks like that. I am just telling you. It is 2 years and not one farmer.

I want to convey my thanks to the Secretary, to you, to Mr. Knight, for providing public access to the comments on the CSP proposed rule.

it would not be acceptable for a commodity program to do that, and it should not be acceptable for this kind of commodity program.

Thank you very much, Mr. Chairman.

I also know that you attended the listening session on the proposed rule in Des Moines in February, where over 250 people attended, again, which I understand most of whom opposed the proposed rule and everybody who spoke was against the…

Which we said no cap.

the proposed CSP rule--I am getting back to that proposed rule again--would bar the vast majority of producers from participating.

I cannot believe that a 15 percent limitation is any kind of a real onerous limit.

So is the Administration requesting a change then in their budget proposal to reflect what we did?

Is there an attempt by some to kill the suborning--to kill it before it even gets off the ground?

I would not let this opportunity pass without thanking Chairman Bennett for his strong support of conservation programs.

Well, do you see the irony that I have just--the irony that USDA is complaining about the difficulty of implementing a rule that is open to all with a cap, okay? But we took off the cap. Then the Administration turns around and requests a…

We are now coming up on 2 years since the Farm Bill was passed--2 years--and not one farmer has been signed up in the CSP program.

Take it to the bank--as long as I am here.

Surely, we could get a couple of billion out of that or a billion-and-a-half at least to help on the conservation program.

Mr. Chairman, it is just not pencil dust.

Every Senator I have talked to has heard from their farm groups.