That's my point. I mean, I agree with you on that.

I think they should have overruled Austin.

I'll always argue on the part of the First Amendment if I can.

It's even beyond that.

I do not see how anyone can justify a citation to actions outside the country as any authority whatsoever to define what Americans have done.

Americans believe that you only govern with the consent of the governed and we have not consented to be governed by Europe or any other advanced nation.

I am worried about the idea of legal progressivism. I think that's a pernicious philosophy.

Thank you, Mr. Chairman, I appreciate it.

The President, I think as Senator McCain said is a legal progressive.

I'm just grateful for all these witnesses and appreciate their testimony here today.

The disaster would be, if the statement did not accurately reflect all of what ACOG thought.

the law requires the same access for the military as other employers.

What ACOG thought was that, on the one hand, they couldn't think of a circumstance in which this procedure was the absolutely only procedure that could be used in a given case.

This, of course, would be disaster.

President Clinton had strong views on this issue, and what he thought was that this procedure should be banned in all cases except where the procedure was necessary to save the life or to prevent serious health consequences to the woman.

the only thing that was at issue was essentially the sponsoring organizations, whether it was the Office of Career Services, or instead the Student Veterans Organization.

Well, I'll tell you, this bothers me a lot, because I know that there were plenty of doctors in ACOG who did not believe that partial birth abortion was an essential procedure and who believed that it was really a brutal procedure.

it would be a disaster