That's 40 percent of our propane comes from that pipeline. It's reversing for next year, right?

Which is what Mr. Rodgers was saying that they're flexible not overly prescriptive, but they're all learning from each other.

Is that important, Mr. Nadel, that the idea of establishing data that is that people can count on and say we know that this is what this technology does or we know this is what our savings will be?

I think as everyone realizes Hawaii is a little isolated and renewable energy is a big piece of that portfolio.

I like the idea of a propane reserve system for the Midwest.

I like combined heat and power for a lot of different reasons.

That's laying a cable.

From our perspective in Minnesota we want to make sure that those rules have, the rule has flexibility to allow the credit for energy efficiency and renewables.

The bill's resiliency as well. These things operate in island mode or can operate in island mode and that can, especially if you're doing things like storing important data. It's a security piece too.

Senator Franken's benchmarking bill reflects the need for all building owners to easily understand how their buildings are working.

I support those as well.

We're in the middle of some votes on the Floor.

That's a very important crisis right now.

I'm pleased that Ranking Member Risch and--is doing this with me.

The Minnesota Department of Commerce also supports Senator Franken's bill (S. 1205--Local Energy Supply and Resiliency Act) that promotes district heating and cooling.

Oh, I see what you're saying.

We thank you very much for the bill you've introduced on the topic.

Americans basically distrust executive power, and if they are not given enough information to make a decision for themselves about the legitimacy of things, then they will assume that the power is being abused.