All I was saying, and it is a minor point, all I am saying is, the initiation to release a child to be eligible for adoption is a different thing from the filing of the adoption procedure.

Yes. Well, it makes it a lot easier for us if we do not have to have all the money in 1 year, I can tell you that.

Okay. We do have a problem or we don't have a problem.

Okay. So instantly we know that we have a problem, right? I know I'm repeating what has been said, but to me this is a real problem.

That's why today's hearing will focus on ways that this subcommittee can target resources towards new initiatives.

If the system is getting in the way of that or if the caseworker cannot use the system or if the caseworker is working around the system, we have a problem.

This looks like a big chunk in one year. Why is that?

I'm for you, it has to get done. If it doesn't get done now, it will have to get done later.

You need to be on dual tracks, you need to be worried about 2004, but you also need to be worried with OMB about 2005.

Well, I mean, if it is in your hard file.

This is about, we know, resource needs. This is about proper management of those resources and the services provided.

We just appreciate your interest and again thank you for requesting this GAO report.

And I am not hearing any answer to why you are doing it that way. And I would really like to move on.

That is what I find offensive and alarming. And I think you ought to fix it.

1 percent is an unbelievable figure, or even 12. I mean----

Okay. How many kids are we talking about?

We think it is very, very important. We want to work with you. We want to try to be of assistance to you.

I mean, if they were not getting a permanency plan, I have a problem, right?