If we are dealing with a number of 76 percent, that is a rather high percentage of potential failure in it.

They shall return not only eager to create a better world, what is far more important, they shall come back prepared to create that world.

That is intentional, willful fraud that is putting a person's name out there and then trying to deceive to be able to get a contract.

Seventy-six percent was the number I think that was floated of potential fraud basically that is out there of service-disabled veterans that they are not complete.

Because the requirement is if you are a service-disabled veteran company, you have to have 51 percent ownership management, be in a CEO or president type position.

We need to verify with our trust.

What we have determined is because of, as we evaluated failures to be verified, we have tried to go out with these simple little briefs.

So many of these veterans that are coming home in Oklahoma are coming home to find employers eager to be able to hire them because of their leadership and their great work ethic.

If we have a company that puts a service-disabled veteran on the list, provides documents and says this is where they are in leadership, this is where their name should be on the door, but you actually get to the company and find out that…

you saved us as a Nation, you saved freedom for what is happening; come home and save our economy.

There was that issue before; now people have gotten the message you are not going to be verified, you are going to be investigated if you come in and say you are a vet when you are not.

So far, this year, we are at about 48 percent denials or more than half now we are verifying.

Thank you for the work that you are doing and not only for this hearing, but the work you are doing all the time, when the cameras are off as well.

So this is the self-certify. So if I go to HHS and say I am a service-disabled veteran and I own this company and I want to bid for this contract, they just check I am a service-disabled veteran, but there is no one checking with the VA…

companies in Oklahoma love hiring veterans because they don't know when to quit.

So you are saying currently the standard is 51 percent ownership, but 100 percent control.

There is now a companion bill in the House led by Congressman Peter Roskam and Congressman Carney from Delaware.

This new law aimed at making agencies and agency leadership far more accountable for the expensive mistakes that they make.