I think this is an issue that the census ought to take up in consideration and not just leave it to the States.

My hometown has 14,000 people and there are 900 in the prison. Of those 900, 800 of them are from Chicago.

Sure, and for the prisoner, you are eating and sleeping in prison.

Absolutely. This is crucial, especially to the underserved communities.

But when that prisoner is counted, Mr. Groves, it is added to that community.

I just think what Dr. Groves just said, that we should get that on tape and make a commercial out of it. That was a hell of a commercial that you just made for the people to fill out the census.

I hope that things are moving as we had discussed, Director Groves, during our private meeting, especially in the area of the minority, underserved, or undercounted communities.

I think that adjustments could be made, even in this cycle.

Well, certainly there is going to be some work in keeping records on it, but that person comes out of that jurisdiction, he is not going back to that jurisdiction, because the census is only done every 10 years.

we in Illinois in our General Assembly have introduced legislation that states that the census would readjust the count for incarcerated persons back to their residence, not in the areas where the facility is.

Thank God.

What about the various activities after the census is over and there has to be an undercount, or an assessment of the undercount.

I appreciate that, because that did generate a few more questions.

I hope that there is some--even in this instance, because this is a complaint that I have heard about.

I want it to be known that I was able to hook up the Chicago operation with Stan Moore and we had a major event there to kick off the necessity for having everybody counted.

You all could make a study by using Illinois because there are quite a few small communities where we have built in the last 20 years, they built 20 new prisons in Illinois.

Where does that prisoner actually have a home and where is that person going back to, and it will be a drain on that community as opposed to leaving Centralia and coming back to Chicago.

Mr. Chairman, in the urban communities or the suburban communities, door-to-door sometimes works.