I talked to a prisoner, he got out, he cannot get a job.
The problem is that this Congress has diminished the amount of work that prisoners can do.
I think it is the most extensive since I have worked in this institution, that there has been so much time spent.
Also, Mr. Werholtz, if you vote for Sam Brownback for Governor you will have one of the finest guys that I know.
I thank whatever is done really has to be so authentically, truly, bipartisan.
I know when Mr. Scott and I put the bill in we had tremendous resistance from the states.
I do not think things have improved personally.
I think it has to be so truly bipartisan that it stands the test no matter who comes at it.
It takes money to save money.
I think it is interesting. Kansas is different than, I mean, you have different areas.
I mean, that is a legitimate, we think a legitimate question.
It is fair to say Congress has just made it hard.
I do not think you can put a man in prison for years and not give him work. I just do not think you can.
But I still see articles in the paper about it, though. You still see more at state and local prisons, but it is still----
I think it is an embarrassment that the United States has the largest per capita prison system now in the world.
Well, Mr. Chairman, could we try a pilot?
If we do not have productive, number one education programs, and number two, the Prison Industries Program, or some form of it, we cannot po...
I was opposed to what the Congress did on Prison Industries.
